[Israel.pm] The syntax role of the colon (':')
shlomif at shlomifish.org
Sun Sep 16 04:01:46 PDT 2012
On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:18:17 +0300
Meir Guttman <meir at guttman.co.il> wrote:
> Dear Shlomi,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: perl-bounces at perl.org.il [mailto:perl-bounces at perl.org.il] On
> Behalf Of Shlomi Fish Sent: יום א 16 ספטמבר 2012 11:35
> To: 'Perl in Israel'
> Subject: Re: [Israel.pm] The syntax role of the colon (':')
> >Hi Meir,
> >On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:15:10 +0300
> >Meir Guttman <meir at guttman.co.il> wrote:
> >> Thank you Gaal!
> >> Your pointer is excellent! Googling for «perlio» yielded a lot of
> >> useful links.
> >> Of these I found that the most useful start in “Mojolicious”. My
> >> recommended steps are:
> >> 1. Start with Mojolicious’ “perliol” document’s “Basic
> >> Structure”: http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/perliol#Basic_Structure
> >> 2. Go to the PERLIO section in Mojolicious’ “perlrun”:
> >> http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/perlrun#PERLIO (Why is this
> >> architectural introduction in the document that explains how to
> >> run the Perl interpreter is a mystery to me…). In that section
> >> there is a direct answer to my question, to quote:
> >> A space (or colon) separated list of PerlIO layers. If perl is
> >> built to use PerlIO system for IO (the default) these layers
> >> effect perl's IO.
> >> It is conventional to start layer names with a colon e.g. :perlio
> >> to emphasize their similarity to variable "attributes". But the
> >> code that parses layer specification strings (which is also used
> >> to decode the PERLIO environment variable) treats the colon as a
> >> separator.
> >> 3. Follow with Mojolicious’ PerlIO doc
> >> (http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/PerlIO)
> >> 4. Then follow any of these documents’ “See also...” to your
> >> heart’s content!
> >Just a note - I believe that http://mojoliciou.us/perldoc/ is just
> >an interface to the standard Perl POD documents which can be found
> >under pod/ and other places in the perl distribution, and can be
> >accessed using the "perldoc" command. E.g:
> >perldoc perlrun .
> >So they have nothing in particular to do with Mojolicious.
> Shlomi, believe me, I am well aware of Perl docs. That the first
> place I looked. Unfortunately, these are "reference" docs, namely for
> people who know the stuff but need a reminder. That's not me! The
> Mojolicious docs on the other hand are treating me (literally
> translated from Hebrew as) "...at the level of the eyes!" (You know
> what I mean, don't you?) So my recommendation stands.
Well, the "Mojolicious docs" appear to be the same as the normal perldocs except
formatted as HTML. There are other places you can view them such as
http://perldoc.perl.org/ . The "Mojolicious docs" even have a /perldoc/ URL which
is indicative of their origin.
> >> Good reading, thank you all Shana Tova and Gmar Khatima Tova!
> >Shanah Tovah. However, I should note that חתימה is spelt with a
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heth , instead of a
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaph (as Khaph), so it should be
> >transliterated into "Hatimah" or "Chatimah"
> >- not as "Khatimah".
> I am by no meaning a linguist, so am shrugging... I was told by a
> Hebrew speaking, authoritative American that 'ח' is transliterated as
> 'kh' while 'כ' is 'ch'. Also, my experience with many other
> Hebrew-aware (but not necessarily Hebrew-speaking) Americans
> pronouncing my street name (נחל-דן) for example was compatible with
> Is there an אקדמיה ללשון העברית official transliterating guide? Are
> you sure these Wikipedia pages are authoritative?
Wikipedia pages cannot be authoritative because they are world-editable.
However, they often point to references.
I believe "כ" is transliterated into "kh" because "Kaph" in English is
"K" (from "Kaph-Lamed-Mem-Nun" - K-L-M-N) and and h appended indicates the
non-stressed version. So for example a non-stressed "P" is "ph" (with an f sound),
a non-stressed "t" is "th" (þ like thorn), a non-stressed d is "dh"
(ð , like the English "there"), a non-stressed "b" is "bh" (a "v" sound), and
a non-stressed Gimel is "gh" (like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazal ).
You can find the official transliteration guide here:
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