[Israel.pm] Perl Training Materials Thoughts

ynon perek ynonperek at gmail.com
Wed Oct 31 11:51:24 PDT 2012


Hi,
Allow me to clarify...

The problem lazy trainers. When a trainer wants to be good they read
Conway's book, or Chromatic's or whatever.

Unfortunately, there are too many people teaching perl who haven't read
these books (here in Israel).

I don't want to write yet another best-practice paper, there's plenty of
free online and even hebrew good perl materials.

I'm trying to think how to get the people teaching perl to read it...

On 31 October 2012 13:47, Shlomi Fish <shlomif at shlomifish.org> wrote:

> Hi Ynon,
>
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:41:45 +0200
> ynon perek <ynonperek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I sometimes teach basic or advanced perl class, and usually when I teach
> > the advanced class I need to spend some time explaining to everyone why
> > "use strict" is important, and how to "use autodie" or about the
> > 3-arguments open, etc.
> >
> > Most of the students have taken a basic perl class sometimes in the past
> > (some even recently), but neither the trainer nor the slides mentioned
> any
> > of that stuff...
> >
> > On the other hand, I'm teaching this advanced perl class for a client who
> > used my materials and their own trainer for the basic class. (My slides
> are
> > online).
> > Now, at this client, they start all programs and exercises with use
> strict,
> > open files with my filehandles, etc.
> >
> > So I was thinking if we can reach other perl trainers and either bring
> them
> > to the group, or just create some guidelines paper, maybe titled "before
> > teaching perl, make sure you understand these points". Or create open
> > training materials for perl trainers to use ...
> >
> > (as a side-note, if you take a perl class and the first program has "use
> > strict" on it, you'll use strict. Strict is just an example of course,
> and
> > we should think about best-practices that new perlers should have from
> day
> > 1).
> >
> > What do you think ?
> >
>
> Well, I've been collecting pieces of advice about Perl best practices here:
>
> http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/bad-elements/
>
> It is based in a large part on Damian Conway's book Perl Best Practices:
>
> http://perl-begin.org/books/advanced/#pbp
>
> A lot of what I say in the page has reached consensus among the members of
> teh
> clueful Perl community, but some of it may be considered only my opinion
> (and
> some of it I omitted, because it was only nitpicking or a matter of taste,
> see:
>
> http://modernperlbooks.com/mt/2009/10/from-novice-to-adept-on-answers-to-smart-questions.html
> )
>
> Now you may wish to use that document (which is CC-by) as the foundation
> for
> yours. Is there anything else I'm missing?
>
> Regards,
>
>         Shlomi Fish
>
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