[Israel.pm] Are we open source advocates ?
shlomif at iglu.org.il
Sun Jan 4 03:36:46 PST 2004
On Sunday 04 January 2004 12:17, David Baird wrote:
> Written by: Gabor Szabo
> > Well we are Perl Mongers and not Open Source advocates.
> > Some of us might be both but that's only a coincidence.
> I am not an open source advocate. There is a place for open source, and
> we work with open source code when applicable. However, I don't
> encourage anyone to include open source code (especially under the GPL)
> in their projects.
Just a correction: if you're project is for internal use only, you have a full
right to incorporate GPLed (or any other free software license) in it and
even to modify it for your own use. The restrictions of the GPL apply only if
you wish distribute the modified or linked to source. For more information
refer to the Free Software Definition by Richard M. Stallman:
> If someone wants to contribute to an open source
> project, well hooray! I think it costs just as much (if not more) to
> work with an open source project rather then build a project on
> purchased, licensed, and supported code.
In some cases, yes. It vastly depends on the quality of the code and
implementation. Usually, you are right that the cost of licensing software is
negligible compared to the total cost of ownership (TCO). If a
non-open-source software works for you, I will be the last person to tell you
not to use it. But it was demonstrated that software distributed under an
open source license has some clear advantages for both users and developers.
> Perl is an exception and exceptional. It is very easily integrated into
> open source and commercial projects without violating the license. I
> think that comparing Perl to an open source project like Linux is like
> apples and oranges.
I think Linux is easily integrated into open source and commercial projects
without violating the license as well. Maybe you can't rip off the source
code of the O(1) scheduler and use it as is inside the NT kernel. But you can
still, use Linux as an SMB/Internet server for a large number of Windows'
workstations. Or alternatively, use the O(1) scheduler algorithm in your own
software or operating system (including NT).
As for what I meant by "open source advocates": here's an irresponsible
explanation. Perl is an open-source language and has many open source APIs.
(or such that are based on otherwise open-source frameworks). Furthermore, it
is mostly used in UNIX environments, which have a long tradition of open
source software. (not that I have anything against people using it on
Now, as such, we must understand that many of our users, actively use Linux or
other UNIXes instead of Windows and programs like OpenOffice instead of
PowerPoint. It's the decent thing to assume. Add to that to the fact that
PowerPoint's format is not entirely documented, and you'll get an even graver
Shlomi Fish shlomif at iglu.org.il
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