[Israel.pm] Installer for a Perl and Web Meta Language based program.

Shlomi Fish shlomif at iglu.org.il
Wed Apr 14 12:41:17 PDT 2004

Hi Mikhael!

You probably misunderstood me. I said at the beginning that I am using 
Autoconf+Automake now, and did not like it and then you recommended me to 
using them, and also gave me an AC/AM 101 on how to do it. (which wasn't 
necessary, because I already discovered it myself using trial and error and 
reading the docs).

The problem with Autoconf and Automake is that it takes too damn long to 
prepare the program for testing. I need to:

1. Create a dist. (make distdir)

2. cd there and invoke configure with a prefix set to a local directory

3. "Compile" and install everything which is a recursive make.

Another factor is that some of my tests are written in bash and are very 
comprehensive and so are kind of slow. But that can be fixed. Still, the 
preparation time for the testing is noticable.

One option to fix it would be to generate my own custom Makefile.in which 
would later be processed by ./configure to create Makefile. (and so ditch 
automake). This solution works quite well for the Subversion people where 
Greg Stein wrote a build system generator in Python. (I can do it with perl). 
And I had positive experiences with the speed scalability of a centralized 
makefile architecture. (there's also Peter Miller's "Recursive Make 
Considered Harmful" article which I haven't read yet[1] ).

Still, it would be quite a lot of work on my part, and I'll have to think how 
I can resolve all the issues I put forth with it effectively. I'm hoping to 
avoid that.


	Shlomi Fish

[1] - http://www.canb.auug.org.au/~millerp/rmch/recu-make-cons-harm.html

On Tuesday 13 April 2004 01:41, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2004 05:55:22 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > I have developed Quad-Pres, which is a presentation tool based on Perl
> > and Web Meta Language (http://thewml.org/) first for my own use and now
> > distribute as open source software.
> >
> > Now, up to now, after I revamped the program to be centralized in the
> > system, I used GNU Autoconf and Automake to manage the program's
> > "compilation" and installation. The problem is that now I have several
> > tests and the process I'm using to invoke them from Autoconf is "icky":
> > it's slow, cumbersome and unfit for a Perl program.
> >
> > I'm looking for a nice alternative installer, preferablly written in Perl
> > (which I can already assume is installed there), that I can use to
> > perform the preparation, testing and installation. Rolling something on
> > my own should not be too hard, but I'd rather use an available solution
> > if possible.
> [requirements skipped]

[Autoconf/Automake 101 snipped]

Shlomi Fish      shlomif at iglu.org.il
Homepage:        http://shlomif.il.eu.org/

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
        [Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.]

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